Today, LDF Director-Counsel Sherrilyn Ifill joined civil rights activist DeRay McKesson at Google’s Zeitgeist event for an intimate and open discussion about current race relations in the US, systemic racism, and the importance of the Black Lives Matter movement. The two also touched upon recent police-involved shootings in Tulsa, Oklahoma and Charlotte, North Carolina. The conversation was moderated by Google’s Senior Vice President of Corporate Development and Chief Legal Officer, David Drummond.

Watch their talk below.